MTU Mailbag 7

It’s that time, once again, for me to dig through my backlog of EVEmails and showcase the various comments and questions I receive from pilots across New Eden. Unlike some other hunters out there, I don’t mail the owners of MTUs I have popped, I sit back and let them contact me. I may change this approach in the future though.

First, lets take a look at a mail from MTU hunter, Pod Watcher.

EVE Mail Pod Watcher

Here’s that killmail for you:

Kill: kus Hamabu (Mobile Tractor Unit)

Great work there, Pod Watcher! Pod is one of the few hunters that routinely removes MTUs from dangerous systems like Amarr and Jita, keep up the great work!

Geras is actually one of the systems where I have an undying container, see this post for more information on this phenomenon.


EVE Mail Chrinni Soivio

Thank you very much for the kind words, Chrinni. I was unsure about the style/theme I chose for my blog at first, but it has grown on me, and now it feels quite homely.

To answer Chrinni’s question, you get a yellow marker (Suspect Status) for shooting an MTU, not a red one. There is more info about this on the MTU FAQ page on this blog, which didn’t exist yet when I first received this mail.


EVE Mail Psycotik Gier

o/


EVE Mail Orion Serini

If Orion’s name looks familiar to you, you might remember him from Vocal Local 8 where he said some nice things to me in local. I decided to dedicate an MTU kill to him in appreciation, here it is for you:

Kill: Sun Ying (‘Magpie’ Mobile Tractor Unit)

That’s quite the expensive thing to just leave lying around!


EVE Mail Nemo Harden

Wow, another Magpie! Here’s that killmail for you:

Kill: K-700 TPAKTOP (‘Magpie’ Mobile Tractor Unit)

What an excellent first MTU kill for Nemo/Revy. In the small text under the killmail he mentions that he tried to shoot the wreck and got his Huggin CONCORDed, oops! That’s a lesson learned though, and he went on to kill a number of other MTUs, before finding his feet in PvP and racking-up an impressive killboard. Congratulations!

I’ve always believed that MTU hunting is a great way to get pilots interested in PvP, and to help some of them break out of the repetitive PvE cycle that traps so many.


That’s it for this edition of MTU Mailbag, if you have any comments or questions for me, don’t hesitate to send me (Pix Severus) a mail. I reply to almost all mails I receive and there’s a good chance your mail will appear on this blog at some point in the future.

The Holy Grail? Again?

Today, I would like to revisit an old post I made when I was still relatively new to the world of MTU hunting. In that post I showed my largest (in terms of ISK destroyed) MTU kill at that point in time, which I had labelled as the Holy Grail of MTU kills. Here it is again for you:

Kill: Wulfgar WarHammer (Mobile Tractor Unit)

Quite a beauty, I’m sure you’ll agree, the loot fairy was even kind enough to grant me a decent payout. But how does that kill hold-up to more recent standards, and do I still consider it the Holy Grail? Since the above kill, I have indeed had a much larger kill (again, in terms of ISK destroyed), so sit back and let me tell you that story.

I remember the night well, I had spent most of it chatting with corpmates and other fellow hunters in the MTU Hunting chat channel. I’d only had a couple of unremarkable MTU kills that night, one of which was empty, the other filled with White Glaze, which I didn’t even attempt to haul. My hunting route led me to the system of Mastakomon, one of the quieter systems in the busy region of The Forge. I noticed an MTU on D-Scan named “northwest bouy”, and went through the usual procedure of probing it down.

When I landed on-grid with the MTU, I noticed immediately that something was quite amiss. CONCORD was also on-grid which meant that something had recently gone down there, and when I checked the MTU for it’s owner (right-click, show info), I found that he was in local with me. The race was on, then, to pop this MTU before the owner came back for it, and with a Noctis already on D-Scan, I wasted no time.

Kill: DAS BOOT Saraki (Mobile Tractor Unit)

The Noctis never appeared, and the kill went smoothly, as most do, giving me the largest MTU killmail I have ever received (at the time of posting this). But what exactly went down here? Why was this MTU filled with the remains of what was quite obviously a big ol’ missile boat? The MTU’s owner didn’t have any recent losses that would indicate he lost such a ship, perhaps he chose not to sign-up to zkillboard, meaning any losses to NPCs wouldn’t show? Even if that was the case though, why was CONCORD on grid?

I always share my interesting MTU kills with my fellow hunters in the MTU Hunting chat channel in-game, and in this instance, I’m very glad I did. Fellow MTU hunter, Rosov Aulmais, had actually heard of this corp before, it seems they actually had a reputation for losing expensive ships in failtastic ways to CONCORD.

MTU Hunting chat channel

This prompted me to dig a little further, and looking back through my screenshots, I noticed that one of DAS BOOT Saraki’s corpmates (most likely his main) named loren cushing was also in local. I checked loren’s killboard and there it was, the missle boat loss in all it’s splendour:

Kill: loren cushing (Raven Navy Issue)

Mystery solved? Well, it still doesn’t explain how or why he is getting himself CONCORDed, only that it is just something he does from time to time. I would’ve asked him, but I didn’t think he would’ve been too cooperative with someone who just gave him yet another red mark on his already-quite-colourful killboard.

So, do I consider this kill to be the Holy Grail of MTU kills? Well, in terms of ISK destroyed, it is certainly my largest, but the ISK received is still lower than my original kill, earning myself only 100m ISK this time thanks to the faction ballistic control that dropped. We also have to consider that other hunters get much larger MTU kills than this all the time.

To answer my own question, no, I don’t think the above kill is the Holy Grail, nor do I still consider my original kill all those years ago to be it either. Perhaps the amount of ISK an MTU is worth is just a facade in this respect, and the only thing that gives an MTU kill true worth is a good story to go along with it? I have a feeling that if I actually do find the Holy Grail of MTU kills, I’ll know it instinctively.

The search continues.


Bonus Edit!

I spoke with fellow hunter, Rosov Aulmais, again after uploading this post, and he had a new theory as to why the pilot CONCORDs himself on the regular. Some mission runners actually shoot the cheap wrecks in their mission site so that their MTU will tractor-in the good stuff faster. Shooting a wreck that belongs to an alt will get the space police on you pretty fast. This would certainly explain the sheer frequency in which the pilot lost his ships.

Rosov Aulmais Chat

Sage advice. Unless you’re a ganker, there is no need to set your button red.

X Marks the Spot

In the last post, I told you about the early POS bashing days of my corporation, Empty You [EMTU], and showed you what kinds of profits we had received from it. Today, I’d like to continue the story of our treasure hunt, and tell you about our largest haul to date.

May 2017 would go down as perhaps the most important month for our corporation, it’s the month where we started cleaning-up POSes for the first time, giving us a solid activity we could do together, rather than just doing our own thing on different sides of the galaxy. It was also the month where we received the vast majority of profits we would ever receive from this activity. Indeed, it was the 2nd-to-last day of this month that our largest payday would finally arrive.

The way we would find our targets was quite simple, we would fly through systems (in my case, along one of my MTU hunting routes) and we would run D-Scan to look for POS modules. Once we’d found some interesting modules, like Refining Arrays and Assembly Arrays, we’d probe them down, bookmark the tower and then note down the system name along with the corp that owned the POS (click “show info” on the POS tower to see who owns it). After we had done the above, we would add the POS to our list of targets, and we would work through this list, wardeccing the POS owners one day at a time. This meant we always had something to do that night, and if we didn’t have time that night, we still had a week to go and shoot it, so it was all good.

One such target I found was nestled snugly by Moon 14 – Planet 4, in the system of Vasala, and it was owned by a 9-man corporation called Galactic Brotherhood of Violence [GBOV]. This POS looked juicy, very juicy, with a whole host of exotic-looking arrays anchored around a medium tower.

Oylpann Kumamato > wow this is beautiful
Pix Severus > you shouldve seen my face when i found it

POS Bash

Look at that structure spam.

Whilst researching this corporation, I had found that they were already at war with another corp named Estrellados con Estilo [ESCES], a 6-man team that persued similar activities to us. I say “team” but it was just one of them who was doing the bashing at that time, he would leave the Control Towers intact, and just blow-up the modules instead. He had destroyed most of the modules around one of Galactic Brotherhood’s other POSes in Hampinen, something I didn’t even know was there due to the way we find our targets. Clearly, though, our Estrellados counterpart didn’t know that the Galactic Brotherhood had a second POS either, or he would have surely shown-up in Vasala to take down the loot-bearing arrays, and get the most out of his 50m ISK wardec fee.

This presented us with a potential problem though, if this POS-popping fellow were to check the war reports of the POS-owning corp, he would see that we have wardecced them too. A quick check of our killboards would show him that we do the same activity, and at that point he could realise that there must be another POS, and all it would take is to run a locate on us to see where we had parked, and investigate the area for that elusive second POS. A long shot, I know, but I didn’t want to leave it to chance, so I asked Niya and Oyl not to park their bashing ships and characters anywhere within 8 jumps of Vasala until the war went live.

Niyalyn > just an fyi… there is a storm system south of me.. (impressive lightning show atm) i may have to bail if it moves north
Pix Severus > no problem

It seemed like it took forever for the war to begin, and the fact that I was off work that day probably didn’t help matters much, but eventually the time did come. As usual, myself and Niya were online first, and Niya sent a scout into the system to look for war targets, and to check if the POS had been fuelled or not, thankfully it hadn’t. We moved our bashing ships into the system and began plinking the tower while waiting for Oyl to arrive (standard practice at this point!) As soon as Oyl came online and moved his ships into position, we started on the arrays:

Kill: Galactic Brotherhood of Violence (Ship Maintenance Array)
Kill: Galactic Brotherhood of Violence (Large Ship Assembly Array)

Empty, not even a single metal scrap, but then:

Kill: Galactic Brotherhood of Violence (Component Assembly Array)

Some containers appeared this time, what could possibly be inside?

Pix Severus > component assembly
Pix Severus > x
Niyalyn > x
Tristis Puella > x
Oylpann Kumamato > oh
Niyalyn > containers
Pix Severus > ok loot first
Oylpann Kumamato > lots
Tristis Puella > going for hauler
Niyalyn > thats alot of stuff :)
Aniyatriss > Capital Cargo Bay x2 – Capital Armor PlatesCapital Shield Emitter
Aniyatriss > Capital Armor Plates BlueprintCapital Cargo Bay BlueprintNitrogen Fuel Block Blueprint x9
Tristis Puella > wow
Tristis Puella > are they researched?
Pix Severus > we hit a capital ship builder?
Aniyatriss > fully researched
Aniyatriss > originals..
Pix Severus > oh my

Unfortunately, in the excitement, we didn’t get a screenshot of the loot sat in a hangar, so let me break it down for you. In this array we had just gotten 2 fully researched Capital Construction BPOs worth 1.2b and 900m ISK respectively, 9 fully researched fuel block BPOs worth around 180m, and another 150m ISK in fuel blocks and assorted capital components. The grand total sat at just over 2.4b ISK, we had finally found some of that long-forgotten treasure.

Loot in contracts

Oylpann found a buyer within hours.

Of course, we still had work to do, there were a number of arrays still unpopped, and a tower to chew through!

Pix Severus > we havent even hit the labs yet, i thought those were the ones that contained blueprints?
Tristis Puella > maybe they do also ^^

Kill: Galactic Brotherhood of Violence (Hyasyoda Rsearch Laboratory)
Kill: Galactic Brotherhood of Violence (Design Laboratory)
Kill: Galactic Brotherhood of Violence (Compression Array)

All empty, unfortunately. We then took out a bunch of the defensive arrays (which, FYI, never contain loot) before taking down the tower:

Kill: Galactic Brotherhood of Violence (Caldari Control Tower Medium)

Job done. We had just removed one big ol’ collection of signatures from this system, future MTU hunters looking for prey in this system would have a much easier time of it. I returned the next day to pop a few of the defensive batteries that were left over, before realising I could just scoop them and dump them in a station. I then went to Hampinen a couple of days later to look for Galactic Brotherhood’s second POS, to see if there was anything that needed mopping-up, and there was, a few defensive arrays which I took down myself.

I had created a medal some time ago, in case this situation ever presented itself, and I took great pleasure in awarding it to all of our corp members:

Empty You's Payday Medal

We wouldn’t find any treasure that matched this in the rest of our POS-popping days, but that’s fine, we were amazed that we actually got any kind of loot from doing this, as late to the party as we were. This POS kill came less than a week from the events in the last post, so at this point we each had a fair chunk of ISK, and for me personally, it was more than I knew what to do with.

Our POS bashing story doesn’t end here though, oh no, we have more adventures to come. In fact, once our structure removal business had gotten off the ground and became almost routine for us, things would start to get a little weird.

To be continued.

MTU Mailbag 4

It’s that time, once again, for me to dig through my backlog of EVEmails and showcase the various comments and questions I receive from pilots across New Eden. Unlike some other hunters out there, I don’t mail the owners of MTUs I have popped, I sit back and let them contact me. I may change this approach in the future though.

EVE Mail

Let me grab that killmail for you:

Kill: Espelancer (Mobile Tractor Unit)

Here is the item for you too: Pith X-Type Large Shield Booster

It looks like Spontaneous Combustion (great name, by the way) had quite the adventure there! I absolutely love receiving mails like these, as I love a good story. Thanks SC! I also feel very happy, and a little proud, that I provided some inspiration to cause those events to unfold. From her killboard, we can see she racked-up quite the number of MTU kills over the years too. Bravo!


EVE Mail

Thank you, Ysebelle, your mail made me smile, and I’m glad my blog helped to provide you with some inspiration. Oh, and as we can see from her killboard, she did indeed manage to pop a few MTUs. Well done!


EVE Mail

You are most welcome, sir. I suppose hunting-down your own MTU still counts as an MTU hunt! I was hoping that my guide to hunting MTUs would be used for more than just regular hunting, and I’m glad it was useful.


EVE Mail

Thank you very much for the encouragement, Novastarlee! If you haven’t seen his killboard yet, you really should, Nova is definitely one of the most accomplished MTU Hunters in EVE, with a whopping 2700 MTU kills at the time of writing this post.


EVE Mail

Here we have a mail from a friend of mine, Mr Chili Palmer. The answer to his question is a). Attacking an MTU is a suspect-level offense, this means you will become attackable by any player in highsec without CONCORD intervening for the next 15 minutes. Thank you for the kind words, Chili, and I hope to see you in-game soon!


That’s it for this edition of MTU Mailbag, if you have any comments or questions for me, don’t hesitate to send me (Pix Severus) a mail. I reply to almost all mails I receive and there’s a good chance your mail will appear on this blog at some point in the future.

MTU Mailbag 3

MTU Mailbag 3

It’s that time once again, for me to dig through my backlog of EVEmails and showcase the various comments and questions I receive from pilots across New Eden. Unlike some other hunters out there, I don’t mail the owners of MTUs I have popped, I sit back and let them contact me. I may change this approach in the future though.

EVE Mail

It is always nice to receive positive mails such as this one. I have always chosen politeness over smacktalk, even in my ganking days where I would receive nothing but death threats in return. Of course, there is a time and place for smacktalk, for example it can be used as a tool to get someone to undock who otherwise would’ve stayed hidden, and it can also anger some people enough in the heat of the moment to cause them to make mistakes. There isn’t much call for that in my line of work at the moment though, I’d rather make as many friends as possible right now.

One of my goals in New Eden is to get more pilots talking in local, as to me there is nothing more depressing than entering a system filled with dozens of people, and having not a single word exchanged between them. I believe that keeping it friendly is the best way to encourage more pilots to communicate with me, and with each other. After all, who would want to open their mouth when all they get in return are snarky responses?


EVE Mail

Let me grab those killmails for you:
Kill: Selcrim Arkenvos (Mobile Tractor Unit)
Kill: Gogela (Mobile Tractor Unit)

Those are some huge MTU kills there, thank you for sharing them with us, Shaela. A follow-up mail to Shaela confirmed that these MTUs were popped during the aftermath of some citadel attacks in Perimeter, hence the unusual loot found within.


EVE Mail

Thank you very much, Ieze, I do indeed have a lot of fun doing what I do. On another note, I tend to get a few mails titled “Sorry” from time to time, either for sending me random mails, or asking questions, but please don’t. I’m very happy to receive each and every mail I get, there’s no need to apologise.


EVE Mail

I received this rather cheerful mail from Elenow who was looking for tips and general info about the game, having recently started playing EVE with a few friends.

EVE Mail

I, of course, recommended popping a few MTUs, after all, that’s what I do. I realise that it isn’t for everyone, however,  so I asked her what she and her friends wanted to do. It seems like they were looking to get into the world of mercenary work, and had run into some trouble/fun in that regard, which Elenow’s killboard can attest to. The method of ISK-making I recommended was incursions, as it would help with learning to fly as part of a larger fleet, and pays-out extremely well. If I was to recommend an ISK-making activity today though, it would be wormhole exploration.


EVE Mail

This mail was formatted in such a way as to make it rather hard to read at my UI scale (90%, in case you’re wondering) so instead of resetting my UI, which is a pain, I’ve copied and pasted the contents below.

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Hello and thanks!
From: c4binfever
Sent: 2017.02.13 18:56
To: Pix Severus,

Pix,

o/

I found your blog after randomly clicking on your character in local. I really enjoy reading it and wanted to say thanks – I have racked up quite a few MTU kills now using your guide and fits.

Reading your posts gave me an idea to further persue ninja salvaging and start a little project called The Junk Committee. It’s just a small group of ninjas that hope to work together. I haven’t got all the details ironed out yet though.

I wanted to pick your brains about ganking. I seen your killboard and you have done some ganking before. I was wondering how you pick targets, and where you shoot people? Is there any money to be made solo ganking?

kind regards
c4binfever
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It’s always nice to hear that someone has found my MTU hunting guide useful, as it makes the time I spent making it feel all the more worth it. Here’s c4binfever’s killboard if you want to see his MTU kills. His corp, The Junk Committee, was an interesting idea, similar in nature to my own corp, which at the time I received this mail hadn’t grown beyond being my own one-man operation. It seems that he had created his own blog at some point, named after his corp, and I remember getting a few hits from his blog as he mentioned mine on it. Check out his blog here: The Junk Committee.

Its not often this MTU hunter gets asked about ganking, but it was indeed a profession of mine, and is something that I still do in an opportunistic capacity. I won’t go into full details, but I gave c4binfever some basic advice in my reply. My advice to you, if you’re looking at getting into ganking, is to check out the MinerBumping blog, it has a great resource on how to get started. Otherwise, feel free to mail me and I’ll help you if I can.


After reading through these mails again, I was happy to see the different ways in which people found my blog and learned about my activities. Whether it was through the official EVE Online forums, my network of “Pix Severus was here o/” containers spread throughout highsec, or just from clicking my name in local, presumably after seeing me go suspect.

That’s it for this edition of MTU Mailbag, if you have any comments or questions for me, don’t hesitate to send in a mail. I reply to all mails I receive and there’s a good chance your mail will appear on this blog at some point in the future.

MTU Mailbag 2

MTU Autopsy

There is a lot you can tell from examining the contents of an MTU after it has been destroyed. Picking through these remains can provide you with a wealth of knowledge about the pilot who deployed it. In particular, their chosen activities in-game are laid bare, not to mention their penchant for leaving things lying around in space, but it can tell you much more than that besides.

One example would be finding ore in an MTU that was once sat in an asteroid belt, this tells you that the owner is a miner who uses the MTU to stash ore once his ore bay is full, and probably returns for it in a hauler after he has finished mining. Even a new player could tell you that though, so let us go deeper and examine some of the more interesting MTU corpses and see what story they have to tell.

EVE Online MTU Wreck

After careful examination of this MTU wreck, I can confirm it’s dead.

Kill: Misacun Fabler (Mobile Tractor Unit)

After I popped this MTU in an asteroid belt in the system of Vahunomi, I was surprised to find more than just rat droppings in it’s contents. As we can see from the Strip Miners and Mining Laser Upgrade contained within, the miner had lost her mining ship, and her ship’s wreck was sucked back into her own MTU. There’s more, the presence of Light Neutron Blaster IIs and a T2 magstab tells us how this miner died, she was ganked. The ganker had destroyed her mining ship using a blaster-focused ganking ship (most likely a Catalyst), and after CONCORD destroyed the ganker’s ship in retaliation, that wreck was also sucked into the MTU. If we look at her killboard, we can see that she died in that very same system multiple times, before and after I had popped the MTU, to New Order Agent Liek DarZ. This tells us that the MTU’s owner either had a habit for mining AFK, or was too inexperienced to protect herself from being ganked.

Kill: Yogurt Arkanum (Mobile Tractor Unit)

From this recent kill we can see numerous mission items contained within the MTU’s wreck, which tells us that this MTU was being used by a mission runner. The presence of one item in particular, The Damsel, can tell us exactly which mission was being run, The Damsel in Distress. We can also tell from this wreck that the mission runner had failed his mission, as The Damsel needs to be looted and handed-in to the mission agent in order to complete it. We can only speculate as to why he never finished the mission, but the lack of any ship deaths in Barkrik on this fellow’s killboard would indicate he wasn’t ganked.

Kill: Dread Aldent (Mobile Tractor Unit)

Sometimes the things you find inside MTUs can be quite baffling, such was the case with this MTU I found in the highsec system of Sigga, containing ore that can only be mined outside of highsec, in systems of 0.2 security and lower. Did a miner haul this ore to highsec and leave it in an MTU in a safe spot after mining it in lowsec? Did he buy it on the market and leave it there? Unlikely. The best explanation I can come up with is the possibility that this ore has a chance to spawn in highsec Mining Missions, but I don’t know for sure, so if any experienced mining mission runners are reading this, please let me know!

Kill: Zog Gor (Mobile Tractor Unit)

Here we have another gank victim, this time the MTU’s owner was flying a salvaging ship, which we can tell from the 3 Salvager IIs and 3 Small Tractor Beam IIs it once contained. The presence of T2 blasters and magstabs would indicate that yet again, the gankship used here was most likely a Catalyst. If we take a look at Zog Gor’s killboard, we can see that he lost his Noctis salvaging vessel to New Order Agent Alt 00 in Barkrik the previous day. This pilot had already completed his mission, left it, and returned in a salvaging ship to loot the field. Unfortunately for him, there was more than just loot waiting for him upon his return.

I have already covered the phenomenon of a mission runner losing his ship to mission rats and having his own wreck sucked back into his MTU in a previous post, so I won’t cover that particular example here. There are some more interesting MTU autopsies that I can go over, but I will cover those in a later post. If you have found anything interesting inside an MTU, please tell me about it, along with a killmail, and it may be featured in the next episode of MTU Autopsy.

Return of an MTU Hunter

A few months ago I decided to take a break from EVE due to personal reasons, I have now returned to continue my journey, after all, those MTUs aren’t going to pop themselves.

EVE has changed a little in the few months I’ve been away, with a permanent free trial being added to the game, meaning that you can now play EVE (with trial limitations) indefinitely, for free. I want to make it clear that EVE going “free to play” is not the reason I’ve returned, I was coming back anyway, and besides, I love my shiny T2 ships and modules too much to not subscribe. I am excited at the prospect of having a lot more potential friends to play with though.

When I logged back into EVE a few days ago, the first thing I noticed was a number of EVE mails waiting for me. I wish I could have been there to reply to these mails as they came in, but everyone needs a break at some point:

EVE Mail

EVE Mail

Win Anin’s killmail can be found here, also if you look at her killboard, you can see she racked-up quite a few MTU kills. Lady Mordea’s killboard can be seen here, she also managed to pop a few MTUs. I’m very happy that people found my guide useful, put it into practice, and had fun with it.

EVE Mail

This is a little late now, but I’ll link my current fits here for anyone interested: Hecate and Svipul. Both fits take you to the limit of CPU and PG, so ensure you have good core fitting skills before attempting to use them.

EVE Mail

It’s not every day someone creates a corp in your honour, the sentiment is very much appreciated. Here is manxman69’s killboard, he has killed an impressive number of MTUs thus far. Keep up the good work!

I have received a few more EVE mails which I will be posting at a later date in a seperate blog entry. If you wish to send me a mail, please do so, I enjoy reading them and reply to almost all of them. EVE mails weren’t the only thing waiting for me upon my return. I had been added as a contact with neutral/good/excellent standing to no less than 10 different people, 1 of whom had also sent me a mail. I also had an application to join my corporation, which had unfortunately timed-out a long time ago.

Now that I’m back, it’s time to return to the crazy world of MTU molestation, and as you can see from my killboard, I am slowly easing my way back into it. I’m also close to achieving 500 MTU kills, I think reaching a milestone like that deserves a medal, don’t you?