Vocal Local 10

One thing I have noticed during my travels throughout highsec space is just how quiet it is, there could be over 100 people in local, and not a single word is uttered between those players. This makes me sad, so I like to encourage discourse where possible.

Sometimes, however, an MTU hunter can feel a little blog-famous.

Local Chat with Admiral Takia

It’s always nice to know that people are enjoying the blog, thanks Admiral!


Local Chat with Pix Severus

Having just passed through multiple empty systems, I was delighted to finally see someone in local while passing through Eddar, a system in a very quiet region. With just the two of us in local, I left a comment about his ship’s name (which I can’t actually remember now, it was “metal” something) before moving on.

Local Chat with Illusory Stoner

Having explored the surrounding systems fully, I then passed back through Eddar a few minutes later on my way to another region, and I’m glad I did!


Local Chat with Orvom Ottig

This screenshot might look familiar to you, as it is the full version of an encounter with a named MTU featured in this post. After Orvom scooped his MTU, I decided to leave him to his mission running in peace.


Upon entering the system of Arnon I noticed a pilot named Rosaline plying her trade in local.

Rosaline Ramsey > Im back again, selling the infamous route to JIta. send me 10mil isk (tips welcome) and I will get you to JIta in 6 jumps from here.
Evi Polevhia > Earlier you said three. Get your story straight.
Deucey D > seems legit
Rosaline Ramsey > three was to forge
Rosaline Ramsey > customer told me it was three from exit point. 3plus three and all

At this point I’d left system, but after becoming intrigued with the conversation going on, I headed back in.

Maiali Aurgnet > no prob. thanks for the help
Deucey D > Maiali Aurgnet Account is 2 days old, wtf you have business in Jita for?
Rosaline Ramsey > :)

The locals seemed skeptical of the legitimacy of Rosaline’s business, which was selling fast routes to Jita. I saw no problem with it, and so I gave Rosaline my endorsement.

Local Chat with Deucey D and Maiali Aurgnet

Shortly afterwards, I was contacted by Rosaline.

Private convo with Rosaline Ramsey

Let us hope she got herself a few more customers!


Local Chat with Tavor Stanley

Here we have an encounter with another owner of a named MTU. Remember to tidy away your MTU after usage, folks, unless you want me to come and clean it up for you.


Local Chat with Marta Joringer and Brock Lafisques

It’s always nice to return to Hek, where everybody knows your name, and they’re always glad you came.. Hek is a great place to spot well-known highsec players, some even say that if you visit Hek during a moonlit night you might just be blessed with an appearance of James 315 himself.


Local Chat with Espejo Roto

Yes, still going strong after all these years, an MTU hunter’s work is never done.


Local Chat with workbench

This fellow spoke-up in local after seeing me go suspect, I always reward those who do with a killmail to read.

Kill: Tindale (Mobile Tractor Unit)


Local Chat with Qwerty25 Kouvo

Kill: Andas Cardian (Mobile Tractor Unit)

After poking around the system of Atonder for a few minutes, one of the locals spoke up, perhaps after becoming perturbed at my usage of combat probes.

Local Chat with Qwerty25 Kouvo

Kill: lace Firn (Mobile Tractor Unit)
Kill: GySgt Kossori (Mobile Tractor Unit) (Ouch!)

We ended up having a nice chat about MTUs, which funnily enough is one of my favourite topics!


That’s all for this edition of Vocal Local, but there is plenty more to come. If you see me in local, don’t be afraid to strike up a conversation with me, even a simple wave can go a long way. Who knows, you might find yourself featured in a future edition of this series.

Vocal Local 9

Finders Keepers 2

In a previous post, I told you about some of the things I tend to find lying around in highsec. In this post I’d like to show you some more of these abandoned acquisitions and lonely liberations.

After my return to New Eden in the summer of 2020, it didn’t take long for me to find my first batch of free loot, which came in the form of a number of ships, unpiloted and alone, in the system of Dihra.

Found Wreathes and Tayra

Upon entering the system, I noticed a bunch of haulers clustered together on D-Scan, I thought this was unusual so I probed them down to take a look. When I landed on grid, there they were, a fleet of haulers, all unpiloted. After bookmarking the location, I docked in a nearby station and came back in my pod to board one of the ships and take it to the warm confines of my hangar. I repeated this process until all the ships were removed and were now my property.

There were more than just ships lying around this area, there was also a collection of Hangar Containers peppered around in a spherical formation, which meant that this was the remnants of a player-made structure. After right-clicking and selecting “show info” on one of the ships, I was able to find which corporation owned the structure, and which corporation was responsible for blowing it up.

Kill: Dark Space Exploration (Raitaru)

Inside the containers, I found a collection of cheap items, mostly Corvettes, Shuttles, and PI-related materials.

Found Shuttles and Corvettes

I grabbed as much as I could using the Tayra I had liberated earlier, before some of the locals started sniffing around the scene, after noticing me go suspect for looting yellow wrecks. In all, I got myself a fleet of haulers (which are always handy to have around) a bunch of shuttles and around 20m ISK in other materials. Most importantly though, D-Scan in this system was now clean.

In the nearby system of Uadelah, I found myself another fleet of ships.

Found Amarr Shuttles

I never have to pay for shuttles these days, there’s just so many lying around.


This next one was a case of finding but being unable to keep, as I’d stumbled upon a glitch in the matrix, so to speak. I’d spotted a lone Cruise Missile Battery on D-Scan in the system of Ervekam one evening, and thought I’d just quickly probe it down and scoop it, to keep the system clean.

Found Cruise Missile Battery

POS modules such as these are supposedly going to be removed from the game soon, so I was looking forward to having one to keep as a memento of old times.

Found Weird Bug

Upon reaching the item, I was unable to scoop it as it apparently belonged to “EVE System” or an NPC Corp. It actually belongs to Secure Commerce Commission, a member corp of CONCORD Assembly, very strange. Instead of finding myself a nice trinket, I’d found a weird bug in the game world, and so I departed feeling a little disappointed.

I am unable to find a mention of this bug anywhere online, it’ll probably just disappear when they finally get around to removing POSes from EVE though. I have reported this as a bug to CCP, but it is still there at the time of writing this, so you can go there and see it for yourself if you wish. Also, the message won’t appear unless you have enough cargo space (500m3) to scoop the module, so bear that in mind.


I wasn’t expecting to turn Finders Keepers into a series, but I find a lot of weird and wonderful things out there, from fleets of abandoned ships, to expensive drones and all manner of oddities. If you’ve ever found and kept anything interesting that was just sat out there in space, please let me know, I’d love to hear about it.

Bounties

Not everyone is happy to see that their friendly. local MTU Hunter has paid them a visit. Indeed, some get so peeved over it that they will even express their displeasure by throwing their ISK around wildly. In this post, I’d like to go over some of the occasions that I’ve been on the receiving-end of such money-flinging.

Putting a bounty on someone’s head in EVE Online might seem like a great way to get back at the people who have wronged you, but it really isn’t. All it succeeds in doing is making the target of your ire look cooler and more dangerous to the newer players. No one attacks other capsuleers based on how high their bounty is anymore, this is mostly due to the fact that you only get a fraction of that bounty paid-out when you kill them, depending on the cost of the target’s ship. At most, a bounty is a nice bonus that comes as more of a “cherry-on-top” after you’ve already killed someone.

It is also possible to “troll” people who have placed a bounty on your head by purposefully dying over and over again in cheap Rookie ships. This will spam the inbox of the bounty-placer with notifications of your death, and if they placed a large amount of ISK on your head, that spam will keep coming for a very long time!

The very first time I received a bounty in my MTU hunting career was detailed in this post, where the MTU’s owner dropped an 80m ISK bounty on my head. My crime? Saving The Damsel, who had been sucked-into an MTU, and was most certainly in distress. Oh, and she still rides with me to this day, in case you were wondering.

The Damsel

The next bounty I received was detailed in this post, where a small sum was put on my head for daring to scoop an abandoned drone and take it to safety. I swear, being a nice guy in New Eden can be more trouble than it’s worth!

Another bounty I received was to the tune of 13.2m ISK, and was placed upon my head by The Angry Miner, Sandra Boirelle. I actually neglected to mention the bounty in that blog post, and unfortunately the bounty notification I received was pruned long ago.


A more recent bounty I received was from a pilot named T M0NEY T, shortly after I had popped his MTU in the system of Aclan one night.

Kill: T M0NEY T (Mobile Tractor Unit)

Bounty from T M0NEY T

This bounty was notable because of the unusal sum he placed upon my head, of 1,000,069 ISK, which tickled me. This warranted a follow-up EVEmail.

EVEmail to T M0NEY T

Aren’t I nice?

He responded a few minutes later.

EVEmail from T M0NEY T

We ended on cordial terms, and he turned-out to be a pretty cool guy about the whole thing. Thanks for being a good sport, T!


The final bounty I want to cover is also a more recent one. I had just passed through a Triglavian invasion system for the first time (I’d been away from New Eden for a while), called Sasta. When I passed through to the neighbouring system, Lashesih, I noticed an MTU laying abandoned near the centre of said system on D-Scan. Let’s take a look at that MTU kill, shall we?

Kill: RoSS Onren (Mobile Tractor Unit)

Nothing special about that kill, right? It is clearly just your standard MTU pop, filled with cheap mission rat droppings valued at less than 1m ISK. But it is what happened next that made that MTU kill very special indeed.

Bounty from RoSS Onren

This is the largest single bounty I have ever received in my MTU hunting career to date. I wonder what was going through the pilot’s mind when he decided to put such a large sum on my head over such a small thing? Did he add an extra 0 or two by mistake? Or was he seriously that upset over a 7m MTU loss? I sent him a follow-up EVEmail to ask him about it, but he never responded, unfortunately.


That just about covers all the bounties I have received thus far in my MTU hunting adventure, and as you can see, it doesn’t happen very often. If you feel that I have wronged you in some way, and you have ISK burning a hole in your wallet, why not put it on my head? I find it most amusing.


Bonus!
Yadot has updated his blog with a few stories and other observations about MTU hunting, check it out here: 400 million Isk

Vocal Local 9

One thing I have noticed during my travels throughout highsec space is just how quiet it is, there could be over 100 people in local, and not a single word is uttered between those players. This makes me sad, so I like to encourage discourse where possible.

Sometimes, however, an MTU hunter can feel rather appreciated in the rare cases where people choose to speak up.

Local Chat with Kathamar

Here are those killmails for you:

Kill: John Vynneve (Mobile Tractor Unit) (Sweet drop!)
Kill: DeathRiderIsComing (Mobile Tractor Unit)

Thank you for the kind words, Kathamar, it makes cleaning-up highsec feel much more worthwhile.


Local Chat with Stephanie Talie-Kuo

It’s always nice to receive a little recognition when I’m travelling around, thanks Stephanie! Eagle-eyed viewers might have spotted one PARTOK TOMPSON in the local list there, check out this post for more info.


Local Chat with medsouz

Whilst making a quick pit-stop in Amarr for some Small Secure Containers, I was spotted in local by medsouz.

Local Chat with medsouz and Raven Eratta

I will continue to spread my name throughout New Eden, thank you medsouz. If you’re a new reader, I spread my name throughout space by leaving containers at stargates, this activity is detailed in this post.


Local Chat with Crni Labud

Thank you, Crni, I’m glad you think so!


Local Chat with Zima Surovaya

Here we have an encounter with a fellow named Zima Surovaya, who immediately spoke-up in local after I blew up his MTU.

Kill: Zima Surovaya (Mobile Tractor Unit)

He first attempted to speak to me in French, but then immediately switched to Russian afterwards. Let us use an online translator to see what he had to say for himself!

French: bocoupe trouve77???0
Translates to: bocoupe found77 ??? 0

Hmm, I’m still none the wiser as to what he’s trying to say here..

Russian: лысая тупая бошка)
Translates to: bald stupid boss)

Ah.. Well, as far as insults go, it’s rather creative! Here was my reply to him:

Russian: я могу быть лысым, но я не глупый, друг
Translates to: i may be bald but i’m not stupid, friend

A couple of weeks later, Zima lost yet another MTU, this time to my corpmate Oylpann Kumamato.
Kill: Zima Surovaya (Mobile Tractor Unit)


Bonus!
Sargon Of Amerish recently uploaded a new song to his Youtube channel. I really enjoyed it, and I hope you will too, check it out here: EVE Online: Shadow Fleet

That’s all for this edition of Vocal Local, but there is plenty more to come. If you see me in local, don’t be afraid to strike up a conversation with me, even a simple wave can go a long way. Who knows, you might find yourself featured in a future edition of this series.

Vocal Local 8

A Definitely-not-Empty You

In previous posts, I told you about the early days of my corporation, Empty You [EMTU], as we embarked on a mission to remove as many POSes from highsec as possible, alongside our usual MTU removal service. In this post, I would like to summarise the growth of my corp thereafter, leading towards the eventual end of our POS-related activities.

Shortly after the events of the last post, we popped one more POS, and then that was it, we had well and truly burned ourselves out. We had started bashing POSes in mid-May 2017, and concluded operations mid-June of the same year. Less than a month after we had begun this activity, it was now time for a break. We had popped a respectable 28 Control Towers, and 127 starbase structures in total, not counting the vast amounts of unanchored POS modules we’d scooped and stashed in stations. Highsec was a little cleaner, but I now understand that there is a fine-line between providing content, and not burning-out.

It wouldn’t be until March 2018 when corp activites would finally begin ramping-up once again, and the POS-popping would resume. We began slowly, taking our time to ensure we wouldn’t burn-out again. With most POSes in highsec completely stripped of loot-bearing arrays at this time, we shifted our focus somewhat, opting to take down Control Towers we had never killed before, in a sort-of “pop one of every type of tower” minigame, rather than focusing solely on arrays and loot. This worked for us, and we would find other minigames to enhance our gameplay in other areas too. There is still an ongoing competition within the corp to pop MTUs using as many different types of ship as possible. I believe Oyl is currently far in the lead on that one!

Pix Severus, Carnivorous Swarm, Oylpann Kumamato, Niyalyn

Pix Severus, Carnivorous Swarm, Oylpann Kumamato, and Niyalyn.

At this point the corp still consisted of just myself, Niyalyn, and Oylpann Kumamato, but soon we would find ourselves inundated with fresh applications to the corp. The people applying would usually be friends of ours who we chatted with regularly in the MTU Hunting chat channel.

The first person to join us was Kogen in late 2017, he was a man who had taken to the MTU hunting profession quite well. Unfortunately he joined us during a period of downtime, and the corp wasn’t active and/or stimulating enough to keep him around. I wish he’d joined us later, or had stuck around for just a little bit longer, when things started to pick up.

The first person to join us after POS-related activities had resumed was Alexis Thunderkunt, also known as “The Drone Whisperer” due to his penchant for finding ridiculous quantities of expensive drones laying abandoned throughout highsec. You might remember Alexis from the blog posts Finders Keepers, and Empty You Empties 1000 MTUs. Just a few days later we were joined by a long-time friend of the corp, Rosov Aulmais. The first I had heard of Rosov was through a friend, he told me that there was this guy going around killing MTUs in an ECM-fit Scorpion, at that point I knew that this man meant business. You should recognise Rosov from the post The Holy Grail? Again? if you’ve been a recent reader.

Alexis Thunderkunt, Rosov Aulmais, PI Tool1, Mr Chili Palmer

Alexis Thunderkunt, Rosov Aulmais, PI Tool1, and Mr Chili Palmer.

The next person to join us was PI Tool1. If you’re a long-term reader of this blog, then that name will probably look familiar to you as he features in an old post named Vocal Local 2. I had met PI during my early days of MTU hunting, but it was years later that PI found my blog, and decided to join the corp. Shortly after PI joined us, we were joined by another long-time friend, Mr Chili Palmer. Chili was a man who had dabbled with MTU hunting in the past, and also did a lot of wormhole PvP. If you recognise his name, you might remember him from Return of an MTU Hunter and MTU Mailbag 4.

Some of the latter additions to our corp were Solacia Solette, a dedicated MTU hunter and drone collector, who was also the brainchild behind the corp’s slogan “You drop ’em, we pop ’em.” Mikey G Udan, another dedicated hunter, who preferred using a Tengu for his hunts, and Deep Choad, a PvPer who wanted to try something a little different for a while. All three of these fine fellows are featured in the post Back For More, which is about one of the few corp competitions we ran around this time. The last person to join us during this period was Emrald Rayne, an MTU hunter and PvPer who did highsec, and MTU hunters everywhere a great service, by removing vast quantities of Mobile Depots from space.

Solacia Solette, Mikey G Udan, Deep Choad, Emrald Rayne

Solacia Solette, Mikey G Udan, Deep Choad, and Emrald Rayne.

If I wanted to, I could write an entire blog post about each member, but a general overview will suffice for now. Some of them have also moved-on from the corp, but thankfully most of those who have left still remain a part of our little community through the MTU Hunting chat channel.

There are a few memorable POS-bashes we had together during this era, mostly because something new, or weird, had happened. I’d like to cover those events now.


The Disappearing Act

One notable event was what we sometimes refer to as “The Bash that Never Happened”. We had wardecced EVE BUSINESS CAREER GUIDE CORP [EBCGC] belonging to a pilot named Roge Alt One, because they owned a tower with a few desirable arrays. When researching this corp, I followed the link in the corp’s description, which was supposed to be some guide on how make ISK in EVE, but instead I found a very poorly written website that was filled with nonsensical cult-like ramblings. If you have ever read something written by a schizophrenic, then you’ll know just how incomprehensible this site was. The site is no longer up, and unfortunately I couldn’t find anything using the Wayback Machine to show you what I mean, but it was clear that English wasn’t his first language at least. After that, I looked up Roge’s alt/main Roseta mallard, and found that he’d had some trouble with CODE. in the past. Expecting something fun, or at least a little bit weird, I was excited to declare war on this.. entity.

Well, something a little weird did indeed happen, but it didn’t exactly provide us with any fun. Just before the war went live, Niya sent a scout into the system as usual, to check for war targets, or to see if the POS had been fuelled, only to find nothing. Yes, absolutely nothing. They had packed-up their POS completely and had shipped it off god knows where. This was the first time we’d ever seen someone do this, and hadn’t even considered it as a possibility to be quite honest. Our primary purpose with these POS bashes was to clean-up highsec from the large amount of signatures that POSes put-out though, so our purpose had been fulfilled, albeit in a way we weren’t expecting. Well played, Roge/Roseta!


The Legacy of DiaRosCris

While hunting for MTUs in the system of Eiluvodi one evening, I spotted a POS on scan that had a couple of arrays, so I decided to add it to our list of potential targets as usual. When I add a target to the list, I note down the name of the corp that owns the POS so I can easily wardec them when it’s time, I also look up the corp’s members and killboard for anything interesting. The corp that owned this POS was called Agram Interstellar [AGRAM] an inactive 1-man corp owned by DiaRosCris. I recognised the CEO’s name instantly because it is rather unique, and that person had been featured on an old Minerbumping post I’d read years ago.

Corp Chat with Alexis Thunderkunt and Oylpann Kumamato

We’d had a few drinks that night, and corp chat was indeed rather silly at times. Old stories of battle, and Alexis’ home-brewed banana wine were the topics of choice that night, along with my usual flavour of bad jokes. The POS bash went by uneventfully, but I always remember it because we were the final cleanup crew that removed the last remnants of DiaRosCris from New Eden. It was also Alexis’ first POS bash with the corp, a time to remember indeed.


The Dark Path

I remember this next one because we didn’t encounter online targets all that often. One night, after making our way to the Kador region, we were setting-up to hit multiple POSes when I noticed 4 war targets docked-up in Khafis. These guys belonged to DarkPath [DKPTH] and owned one of the POSes we were due to hit that night. While waiting for the rest of our corp to get online, we started bashing our first target in the system of Gonan, right next-door to Khafis. As soon as our first POS target went down, and with more of our corp members now online, we headed-out to Khafis and the surrounding systems to see what was going on with these war targets.

With Oyl in a cloaky ship, he popped-into Khafis first to take a look at what they were doing. They had all formed-up behind the bubble of their now-fuelled POS, which already had plenty of guns around it, that were now online. They had also completed their setup with a slew of ECM modules and shield hardeners that they had added in the meantime. They’d got us, we simply didn’t have the ships needed to take on a POS this well defended, and following Rosov’s advice, we just moved-on to continue bashing our next target. Well played DarkPath.

We did have the last laugh though, as a few days later, when Rosov was roaming through the area, he managed to catch one of them on a gate flying a PVE-fit cruiser.

Kill: Deltagram (Caracal)


Eventually, our bashing days came to an end, in much the same manner that most things do in EVE (at least for me). A few corp members take a break, a couple leave the corp for better things, and before long you find yourself taking a break too, leaving things to fizzle-out. To every member of Empty You, past and present, it was fun destroying Starbases with you. We did some solid work together, removing 50 Control Towers from highsec, and totalling 201 Starbase Structures destroyed. Job well done.

This may not be the end of our shenanigans with POSes, as I am exploring options in regards to continuing this activity in the future, now that I’m back in New Eden. With POSes supposedly being removed from EVE soon (I hear CCP are having some trouble in that regard) if you’ve ever wanted to try out POS bashing yourself, take my advice and do it now before it’s too late.

There were more events surrounding our POS bashes that I haven’t covered in this post, but I’ll save those for another time. The next post in this series will be the finale, and will cover our corp’s culture.

To be continued.

Dealing with Greed

A few nights ago, I did my daily check of the Empty You killboard to see if anyone had gotten any interesting MTU kills in my absence, only to find that my corpmate, Solacia Solette, had encountered more than just MTUs that night. Solacia was kind enough to provide me with a write-up of what happened that night, so sit back, relax, and let him tell you that story.


I had my scanning alt moving down from Lonetrek towards Amarr space, going through the mission hub constellations along the way, looking for abandoned drones and MTUs and switching over to Sol to blast the latter, when I find one.

I end up in Waskisen of all places and find two MTUs very close to each other on d-scan. A quick cycle of my probes along with a narrow d-scan show them to be in the same asteroid belt along with a Retriever flown by one Yahroud something or other. I’m sitting here pondering the situation when the Retriever leaves d-scan, so I warp to the belt at 100 to see who owns the MTUs.

Waskisen

Waskisen, in The Citadel.

That turned out to be core Hamu, a pilot who was also in Local at the time but not in the belt. I warp back to the planet so as not to spook him if he returned, and sure enough another minute later and core’s Covetor shows up on d-scan in the belt. The Covetor of course only has an ore hold of 6,000 m3 and is intended as a fleet mining ship instead of a solo one. Our clever friend here had found himself a workaround by parking two MTUs in the belt with him, upping his total capacity to 60,000 m3 between the MTUs and his own ship’s hold. This struck me as an incredibly greedy move and one I wanted to see if I could do something about.

By warping around some of the other belts at the planet I was able to determine that he was about 5km away from one and 10km away from the other, but I still wasn’t sure if I’d be able to destroy at least one before he had a chance to scoop it. I switched back to Sol while I thought about this and destroyed another MTU I had scanned earlier in the system of Isikesu, only a few jumps away from Waskisen.

After that, I switched back to my scanner alt to let Sol’s suspect timer expire and found core had not moved at all. Some quick math in a mining spreadsheet indicated it would take between 45 minutes and an hour for core to fill up his MTUs, so I decided to wait until he left the belt to go get his hauler at which point I would be able to hopefully destroy one if not both MTUs before he could come back.

By the time Sol made it over to Waskisen, about 50 minutes had passed and I worried that I had missed my window. I figured I’d give it 10 minutes and if he hadn’t moved I was ready to call it a night and get some sleep. About 2 minutes later core’s Covetor disappears off of narrow scan and I warped in to get started.

With Void loaded and a bit of heat my Gnosis was dishing out a little over 1000 DPS, easily enough to melt the first MTU in less than a minute. As I’m starting on the second one core warps back to the belt in a Porpoise. He made a critical error in that he warped to the belt at 0 instead of his MTUs, putting him about 7500m away from the one I was destroying.

Porpoise

The Porpoise, an ugly hunk of junk if you ask me.

As he starts moving towards it, I realize that I can just bump him away and turn on my MWD to do just that, working the MTU through its hull as I strand him about 4km away and just outside of scoop distance. While this is going on I also lock up his Porpoise too just in case he decides to aggress. Despite some flawed bumping, I stall him long enough to finish the MTU off, destroying not only both of the ones he had in the belt but the nearly full hour’s worth of ore that had been sitting in them.

He had also targeted my ship during all this, I suspect due to having auto target back still enabled. To my surprise I see his ship icon change to Limited Engagement and promptly activate my Warp Scrambler, web, and weaponry. He goes down almost as fast as his MTUs did, and a minute later I pop his pod too, loot his wreck and head for the nearby station. I was expecting to get one MTU and maybe the second, but got to leave with a Porpoise and 50m ISK pod kill on top of them.

Kill: core Hamu (Mobile Tractor Unit)
Kill: core Hamu (Mobile Tractor Unit)
Kill: core Hamu (Porpoise)
Kill: core Hamu (Capsule)

I’m not sure if losing both his MTUs full of ore just enraged him enough to attack or if he thought the warp core stabilizer fitted to his ship would let him leave if he started losing. Maybe having my ship targeted on his screen was just too tempting for him to pass up. Either way it was a great capstone to a night of hunting.


Thank you for that great story Sol, it goes to show just how unpredictable the MTU Hunting profession can be at times. It also seems like Waskisen is the place to be these days, as another corpmate, Purgo, also had his fair share of interesting events in that system recently.

That’s all for this post, if you have any interesting stories you’d like to share, please send them to me (Pix Severus) via EVEmail.

The Right to Kill

Meet Purgo, a specialist in highsec mechanics, and the latest member of Empty You.

Purgo

Having recently returned to New Eden after an 8 year break, Purgo wasted no time in getting to know the locals of Waskisen, a system that would quickly become his favourite hunting ground. After spending a few weeks terrorising the locals through an eclectic mix of techniques such as MTU hunting, suspect baiting, miner bumping, and ganking, he eventually drove one of the largest corporations in the system to completely abandon their operations there.

It was safe to say that Purgo had made one hell of a return to EVE, and Waskisen (and the surrounding systems) had been very good for him indeed. He had netted himself a whole slew of expensive killmails, from blingy mission boats, to decadent industrials, here is just a small selection of the highlights:

Kill: Calcifa (Rattlesnake)
Kill: Maudlin Yakenda (Orca)
Kill: Luthi Phylobates (Vargur) (Wow!)

That Orca kill in particular tickled me, he had shot the pilot’s MTU using a rookie ship, the pilot then scooped his MTU and killed Purgo’s ship. After quickly warping his pod back to station, Purgo returned in his Golem to find the Orca pilot still there, with a Limited Engagement Timer still upon him. Needless to say his Golem tore that Orca apart in short order, incredible work.

Around this time, Purgo had found a link to my blog through this post on the James315.space blog, and joined my chat channel. Due to having similar interests, we became space friends quickly, and it wasn’t long before he applied to join my corp, which I happily accepted. Now that you know the background of our new friend, let us get into the main story.

One night, during his regularly scheduled antics in Waskisen, Purgo had managed to draw the ire of one Rydan Khagrave, a miner who wasn’t best pleased at being bumped away from the asteroids. Rydan showed his displeasure by ganking Purgo’s alt, who was just minding her own business whilst mining in a Venture nearby.

Kill: Iiae (Venture)

Purgo had put down an MTU next to his alt, so when the gank took place, Purgo got all the loot, and actually broke even from it. Unfortunately for Rydan though, this little display had just given Purgo’s alt a Kill Right against him. I would like to mention at this point that Ryden was very much aware that the Venture pilot was Purgo’s alt, but his taste of sweet revenge was to be short-lived.

Over the next few hours, it had become apparent that Ryden had become paranoid about the Kill Right hanging over his head, he even went as far as sitting “AFK” in an unfitted cruiser outside of a station in Waskisen, surely hoping Purgo would take the bait and spend his Kill Right on a relatively worthless ship. A few days later, Ryden left his corp for reasons unknown, and a couple of days after that he set up a new corporation called Weyland-Yutani Industry Devision [WYYU]. At this time, he had moved-out of Waskisen to the more remote system of Sabusi, where he set up an Athanor.

Using an alt, Purgo made sure to keep tabs on Ryden, waiting for the opportune moment when he would be flying something more expensive. Ryden’s paranoia knew no bounds, however, and he refused to undock in anything worth spending the Kill Right on for quite some time. Purgo had even spotted him sat in an unfitted Retriever in an asteroid belt, pretending to mine, again, to bait Purgo into using his Kill Right. There was some satisfaction to be found in the fact that Purgo had such an impact on this miner, that he would change his entire playstyle for weeks, but it wasn’t enough. The day would come though, that would see Purgo get revenge for his alt, and Ryden would lose a lot more than he bargained for.

One fine day, some 2 and a half weeks since Purgo gained the Kill Right, he logged onto his freshly-minted alt, and got him into a Venture. He saw that Ryden was online, so he sent his alt out to the local asteroid belts to look for him. When landing at belt 2 of Sabusi VII, he saw a wonderful sight, Ryden was out mining with his corpmates, and he was in an Orca. Why would Ryden, the King of Anxiety, now be so confident that he would undock an Orca with a Kill Right on his head? The answer to that lies in an event a couple of nights before, when Purgo activated the KR on Ryden’s head while he was flying an Interceptor on autopilot. Purgo had fudged it though, and Ryden’s ceptor managed to get away. After this, Ryden said some not-so-nice things to Purgo, and gloated about winning their little engagement.

Ryden wouldn’t be gloating for long, however, because it looks like he had mistakenly thought that activating a Kill Right once is enough to clear it. It isn’t. A Kill Right doesn’t end until the target loses his ship from it.

So, back in the asteroid belt in Sabusi, Purgo parked his alt’s Venture near Ryden’s Orca and started mining, he then switched to his main, grabbed his Ikitursa, and started making the 20-or-so jumps across highsec to catch him. Thanks to his alt’s positioning, when Purgo entered the system he was able to warp straight to the belt and land right on top of the Orca. Negotiations commenced.

Convo with Rydan Khagrave and FlynnDynamics

Just then, the unthinkable happened, Ryden’s corpmates target locked Purgo’s ship, and opened fire!

Kill: allforone (Moa)
Kill: Allen Mc-Tavish (Hulk)
Kill: Allen Mc-Tavish (Capsule)

Purgo, being a true master of highsec shenanigans, shrugged-off the attack like it was nothing. There was also an Astero that got itself CONCORDed in this gank attempt too, but unfortunately it died before Purgo could land a shot on it.

Negotiations continued.

Convo with Rydan Khagrave

It would seem that our paranoid friend was under the delusion that Purgo was working for someone within his old corp. The mystery of why he left his old corp was now solved.

Convo with Rydan Khagrave

With that said, Ryden’s fate was sealed, and he said goodbye to his Orca.

Rydan Khagrave's Orca

Thar she blew.

Kill: Rydan Khagrave (Orca)

It’s amazing to think that for the price of one ganked Venture, Purgo had gotten himself into quite the adventure, resulting in a whole slew of impressive killmails. Also, due to the gank attempt on him by Ryden’s corpmates, he now has three more Kill Rights to play with!

A happy ending to this little tale then, with an important lesson one can learn from it. Kill Rights are fun, and if you don’t understand the mechanics behind them, you probably shouldn’t go around ganking people with your mining main!

Strange Times in Lower Debyl

In a previous post I detailed my corporation’s largest payday from POS bashing, in this post I will tell you about an incident that occurred just a couple of weeks later, in what was supposed to be just a routine operation.

The first time I ever saw the name Lower Debyl, I’ll admit I chuckled to myself, it is a strange name as system naming conventions go, and the fact that it has a sister system called Upper Debyl makes it all the more unique. This system is located just-off the back route between the trading hubs of Amarr and Rens-Hek-Dodixie. As an aside, that route is the best way to avoid ganking hotspots such as the Niarja pipeline, and the Uedama crossroads, if you have no intention of hauling to Jita.

Lower Debyl

Lower Debyl, in the Devoid region.

At this time, our little 3-man (6, with alts) operation was running quite smoothly, we had become quite proficient at this kind of structure removal, and taking down more than one tower a night was now not uncommon for us. This night was to be yet another twin-tower bash, as I had found two targets in Lower Debyl a week or so earlier whilst hunting for MTUs. Oyl and myself had moved our ships to the system the night before and we’d docked-up in a random NPC station, shortly after I’d wardecced the POS-owning corps, so now all that was left was for Niya to make his way there just after the war went live.

With Oyl still offline, I logged-in and immediately noticed a war target in local, a pilot named Sraoshra Dallocort, who was the owner of one of the POSes we were due to bash that night. We had encountered an online target only once before, a corporation that had fuelled their POS very shortly after the war declaration, and then stayed docked-up and offline for the duration, but this time it was different.

Pix Severus > ok our wartarget is online in Lower Debyl
Niyalyn > ooo
Niyalyn > you have anything cloaky?
Pix Severus > nope
Pix Severus > he is outside our station in a capsule, apparently
Pix Severus > he is asking me to kill him
Niyalyn > lol

Local Chat with Sraoshra Dallocort

With Niya just a couple of jumps out in his trusty Retribution, I decided to just sit tight for the time being, lest our target had some kind of elaborate and tedious station games planned. I did wonder if he actually was in a Capsule though, so I took a brief peek outside, to find him in his pod 30k from the undock, but sat on top of the station within docking range. This had to be some kind of setup, surely?

Niyalyn > going to stop 100km short and see what he is in
Pix Severus > capsule last i checked
Niyalyn > we’ll find out
Niyalyn > then again… today is a good day to die
Pix Severus > yes it is, Worf

When Niya arrived in the system, our target was flying a Succubus, a fearsome and nimble pirate frigate. So, it would seem that my earlier caution was very much warranted? Well, not quite. You see, just before Niya had arrived in system with me, Sraoshra had opened-up a private convo with me..

Private Convo with Sraoshra Dallocort

Private Convo with Sraoshra Dallocort

Private Convo with Sraoshra Dallocort

Private Convo with Sraoshra Dallocort

It would seem, then, that our war target friend had a bounty on himself, and he wanted to use the opportunity our war had given him, to try to clear it? I tried to explain the bounty mechanics to him, but all I had succeeded in doing was getting him to bring out his frigate so we could pop it. With Niya now in-system, I undocked and burned towards Sraoshra, who was yet again atop the station, this time in his frigate. A Hecate with a MWD closes the gap very fast, and I had him tackled just as Niya landed at the station. We wasted no time in exploding his ship:

Kill: Sraoshra Dallocort (Succubus)

Seeing this completely empty ship was the first confirmation we had gotten that he wasn’t trying to bait us into some kind of trap, so we held his capsule in position whilst I continued talking with him.

Private Convo with Sraoshra Dallocort

Private Convo with Sraoshra Dallocort

With that said, we podded him too:

Kill: Sraoshra Dallocort (Capsule)

Private Convo with Sraoshra Dallocort

Private Convo with Sraoshra Dallocort

Private Convo with Sraoshra Dallocort

I always do my best to remain polite with other pilots in New Eden, and this exchange was no exception. I expressed my sympathies that he only managed to shave off 7m ISK from his bounty, bringing it down from 55m, to 48m, and even offered him his corpse back, which he declined, so it went to Niya in the end.

Something still didn’t feel right about all of this though, and it wouldn’t be until we went to take a look at the POS that we would realise why. It would seem that Sraoshra had fuelled his POS, but had done it a little late, and his shenanigans up to this point had been his attempt at buying time for the POS bubble to regenerate!

Niyalyn > it has a shield now
Pix Severus > really?
Niyalyn > yes
Pix Severus > he fuelled it lol
Pix Severus > the cheeky..
Pix Severus > any guns there?
Niyalyn > no
Niyalyn > shield at 52%

We still had a chance though, if he hadn’t put any Strontium Clathrates in the POS, he wouldn’t be protected by a timer when his bubble went down.

Sraoshra had returned to the system after we podded him, but had now gone offline inside an NPC station, so myself and Niya got into our bashing ships and started shooting the bubble with our fingers crossed. We were still hitting the bubble when Oyl came online, and we also had quite the story to tell him, as you can imagine.

Lower Debyl POS Bash

To bring down the bubble, you need to shoot the tower.

Pix Severus > we are currently shooting a bubble at pos 1
Oylpann Kumamato > shooting a bubble?
Pix Severus > story is in the mail
Pix Severus > its been a very strange evening
Niyalyn > it has

Thankfully, Sraoshra hadn’t put any Stront in the POS, meaning that we were able to take down the bubble, leaving the juicy innards for us to feast upon. Sraoshra had kept coming online during the bash, warping to it at 100km in his pod to check on it, and then warping off, so we were glad to finally be on the home stretch. We’d had enough of his shenanigans that night, and we were also pretty sure he had emptied the arrays, so we weren’t expecting any loot either.

Kill: Equilibrium 16 (Caldari Control Tower Small)
Kill: Equilibrium 16 (Reprocessing Array)
Kill: Equilibrium 16 (Compression Array)

Nothing dropped, as expected, but that was still quite the experience, so I consider it worthwile. For me, it was my first time actually shooting a bubble, and for Niya, he got a weird story to accompany his first ship kill in EVE.

That just about covers the main events surrounding my corp’s early days of POS bashing, although my memory might be a little fuzzy. I’m sure Oyl or Niya will remind me if I’ve missed anything important though! I think we did pretty well overall, considering we were just a motley crew consisting of a PvEer, a suspect baiter, and some guy who touches your stuff when you’re not looking. These nights I spent popping POSes and chatting with Niya and Oyl were some of the happiest memories I have of EVE to this day.

The next part of this series will be a collection of other smaller events that occurred during our latter POS bashing days, along with chronicling the growth of my corp, Empty You, as new members began flooding-in to take part in the action.

To be continued.

The Holy Grail? Again?

Today, I would like to revisit an old post I made when I was still relatively new to the world of MTU hunting. In that post I showed my largest (in terms of ISK destroyed) MTU kill at that point in time, which I had labelled as the Holy Grail of MTU kills. Here it is again for you:

Kill: Wulfgar WarHammer (Mobile Tractor Unit)

Quite a beauty, I’m sure you’ll agree, the loot fairy was even kind enough to grant me a decent payout. But how does that kill hold-up to more recent standards, and do I still consider it the Holy Grail? Since the above kill, I have indeed had a much larger kill (again, in terms of ISK destroyed), so sit back and let me tell you that story.

I remember the night well, I had spent most of it chatting with corpmates and other fellow hunters in the MTU Hunting chat channel. I’d only had a couple of unremarkable MTU kills that night, one of which was empty, the other filled with White Glaze, which I didn’t even attempt to haul. My hunting route led me to the system of Mastakomon, one of the quieter systems in the busy region of The Forge. I noticed an MTU on D-Scan named “northwest bouy”, and went through the usual procedure of probing it down.

When I landed on-grid with the MTU, I noticed immediately that something was quite amiss. CONCORD was also on-grid which meant that something had recently gone down there, and when I checked the MTU for it’s owner (right-click, show info), I found that he was in local with me. The race was on, then, to pop this MTU before the owner came back for it, and with a Noctis already on D-Scan, I wasted no time.

Kill: DAS BOOT Saraki (Mobile Tractor Unit)

The Noctis never appeared, and the kill went smoothly, as most do, giving me the largest MTU killmail I have ever received (at the time of posting this). But what exactly went down here? Why was this MTU filled with the remains of what was quite obviously a big ol’ missile boat? The MTU’s owner didn’t have any recent losses that would indicate he lost such a ship, perhaps he chose not to sign-up to zkillboard, meaning any losses to NPCs wouldn’t show? Even if that was the case though, why was CONCORD on grid?

I always share my interesting MTU kills with my fellow hunters in the MTU Hunting chat channel in-game, and in this instance, I’m very glad I did. Fellow MTU hunter, Rosov Aulmais, had actually heard of this corp before, it seems they actually had a reputation for losing expensive ships in failtastic ways to CONCORD.

MTU Hunting chat channel

This prompted me to dig a little further, and looking back through my screenshots, I noticed that one of DAS BOOT Saraki’s corpmates (most likely his main) named loren cushing was also in local. I checked loren’s killboard and there it was, the missle boat loss in all it’s splendour:

Kill: loren cushing (Raven Navy Issue)

Mystery solved? Well, it still doesn’t explain how or why he is getting himself CONCORDed, only that it is just something he does from time to time. I would’ve asked him, but I didn’t think he would’ve been too cooperative with someone who just gave him yet another red mark on his already-quite-colourful killboard.

So, do I consider this kill to be the Holy Grail of MTU kills? Well, in terms of ISK destroyed, it is certainly my largest, but the ISK received is still lower than my original kill, earning myself only 100m ISK this time thanks to the faction ballistic control that dropped. We also have to consider that other hunters get much larger MTU kills than this all the time.

To answer my own question, no, I don’t think the above kill is the Holy Grail, nor do I still consider my original kill all those years ago to be it either. Perhaps the amount of ISK an MTU is worth is just a facade in this respect, and the only thing that gives an MTU kill true worth is a good story to go along with it? I have a feeling that if I actually do find the Holy Grail of MTU kills, I’ll know it instinctively.

The search continues.


Bonus Edit!

I spoke with fellow hunter, Rosov Aulmais, again after uploading this post, and he had a new theory as to why the pilot CONCORDs himself on the regular. Some mission runners actually shoot the cheap wrecks in their mission site so that their MTU will tractor-in the good stuff faster. Shooting a wreck that belongs to an alt will get the space police on you pretty fast. This would certainly explain the sheer frequency in which the pilot lost his ships.

Rosov Aulmais Chat

Sage advice. Unless you’re a ganker, there is no need to set your button red.

X Marks the Spot

In the last post, I told you about the early POS bashing days of my corporation, Empty You [EMTU], and showed you what kinds of profits we had received from it. Today, I’d like to continue the story of our treasure hunt, and tell you about our largest haul to date.

May 2017 would go down as perhaps the most important month for our corporation, it’s the month where we started cleaning-up POSes for the first time, giving us a solid activity we could do together, rather than just doing our own thing on different sides of the galaxy. It was also the month where we received the vast majority of profits we would ever receive from this activity. Indeed, it was the 2nd-to-last day of this month that our largest payday would finally arrive.

The way we would find our targets was quite simple, we would fly through systems (in my case, along one of my MTU hunting routes) and we would run D-Scan to look for POS modules. Once we’d found some interesting modules, like Refining Arrays and Assembly Arrays, we’d probe them down, bookmark the tower and then note down the system name along with the corp that owned the POS (click “show info” on the POS tower to see who owns it). After we had done the above, we would add the POS to our list of targets, and we would work through this list, wardeccing the POS owners one day at a time. This meant we always had something to do that night, and if we didn’t have time that night, we still had a week to go and shoot it, so it was all good.

One such target I found was nestled snugly by Moon 14 – Planet 4, in the system of Vasala, and it was owned by a 9-man corporation called Galactic Brotherhood of Violence [GBOV]. This POS looked juicy, very juicy, with a whole host of exotic-looking arrays anchored around a medium tower.

Oylpann Kumamato > wow this is beautiful
Pix Severus > you shouldve seen my face when i found it

POS Bash

Look at that structure spam.

Whilst researching this corporation, I had found that they were already at war with another corp named Estrellados con Estilo [ESCES], a 6-man team that persued similar activities to us. I say “team” but it was just one of them who was doing the bashing at that time, he would leave the Control Towers intact, and just blow-up the modules instead. He had destroyed most of the modules around one of Galactic Brotherhood’s other POSes in Hampinen, something I didn’t even know was there due to the way we find our targets. Clearly, though, our Estrellados counterpart didn’t know that the Galactic Brotherhood had a second POS either, or he would have surely shown-up in Vasala to take down the loot-bearing arrays, and get the most out of his 50m ISK wardec fee.

This presented us with a potential problem though, if this POS-popping fellow were to check the war reports of the POS-owning corp, he would see that we have wardecced them too. A quick check of our killboards would show him that we do the same activity, and at that point he could realise that there must be another POS, and all it would take is to run a locate on us to see where we had parked, and investigate the area for that elusive second POS. A long shot, I know, but I didn’t want to leave it to chance, so I asked Niya and Oyl not to park their bashing ships and characters anywhere within 8 jumps of Vasala until the war went live.

Niyalyn > just an fyi… there is a storm system south of me.. (impressive lightning show atm) i may have to bail if it moves north
Pix Severus > no problem

It seemed like it took forever for the war to begin, and the fact that I was off work that day probably didn’t help matters much, but eventually the time did come. As usual, myself and Niya were online first, and Niya sent a scout into the system to look for war targets, and to check if the POS had been fuelled or not, thankfully it hadn’t. We moved our bashing ships into the system and began plinking the tower while waiting for Oyl to arrive (standard practice at this point!) As soon as Oyl came online and moved his ships into position, we started on the arrays:

Kill: Galactic Brotherhood of Violence (Ship Maintenance Array)
Kill: Galactic Brotherhood of Violence (Large Ship Assembly Array)

Empty, not even a single metal scrap, but then:

Kill: Galactic Brotherhood of Violence (Component Assembly Array)

Some containers appeared this time, what could possibly be inside?

Pix Severus > component assembly
Pix Severus > x
Niyalyn > x
Tristis Puella > x
Oylpann Kumamato > oh
Niyalyn > containers
Pix Severus > ok loot first
Oylpann Kumamato > lots
Tristis Puella > going for hauler
Niyalyn > thats alot of stuff :)
Aniyatriss > Capital Cargo Bay x2 – Capital Armor PlatesCapital Shield Emitter
Aniyatriss > Capital Armor Plates BlueprintCapital Cargo Bay BlueprintNitrogen Fuel Block Blueprint x9
Tristis Puella > wow
Tristis Puella > are they researched?
Pix Severus > we hit a capital ship builder?
Aniyatriss > fully researched
Aniyatriss > originals..
Pix Severus > oh my

Unfortunately, in the excitement, we didn’t get a screenshot of the loot sat in a hangar, so let me break it down for you. In this array we had just gotten 2 fully researched Capital Construction BPOs worth 1.2b and 900m ISK respectively, 9 fully researched fuel block BPOs worth around 180m, and another 150m ISK in fuel blocks and assorted capital components. The grand total sat at just over 2.4b ISK, we had finally found some of that long-forgotten treasure.

Loot in contracts

Oylpann found a buyer within hours.

Of course, we still had work to do, there were a number of arrays still unpopped, and a tower to chew through!

Pix Severus > we havent even hit the labs yet, i thought those were the ones that contained blueprints?
Tristis Puella > maybe they do also ^^

Kill: Galactic Brotherhood of Violence (Hyasyoda Rsearch Laboratory)
Kill: Galactic Brotherhood of Violence (Design Laboratory)
Kill: Galactic Brotherhood of Violence (Compression Array)

All empty, unfortunately. We then took out a bunch of the defensive arrays (which, FYI, never contain loot) before taking down the tower:

Kill: Galactic Brotherhood of Violence (Caldari Control Tower Medium)

Job done. We had just removed one big ol’ collection of signatures from this system, future MTU hunters looking for prey in this system would have a much easier time of it. I returned the next day to pop a few of the defensive batteries that were left over, before realising I could just scoop them and dump them in a station. I then went to Hampinen a couple of days later to look for Galactic Brotherhood’s second POS, to see if there was anything that needed mopping-up, and there was, a few defensive arrays which I took down myself.

I had created a medal some time ago, in case this situation ever presented itself, and I took great pleasure in awarding it to all of our corp members:

Empty You's Payday Medal

We wouldn’t find any treasure that matched this in the rest of our POS-popping days, but that’s fine, we were amazed that we actually got any kind of loot from doing this, as late to the party as we were. This POS kill came less than a week from the events in the last post, so at this point we each had a fair chunk of ISK, and for me personally, it was more than I knew what to do with.

Our POS bashing story doesn’t end here though, oh no, we have more adventures to come. In fact, once our structure removal business had gotten off the ground and became almost routine for us, things would start to get a little weird.

To be continued.