Finders Keepers

In a previous post I discussed the side-activity of scanning-down and scooping abandoned drones, today I would like to expand on that activity a little more, and also tell you about some of the other things I typically find lying abandoned in highsec.


Abandoned Drones

There are so many of these things out there, that, from my experience, I estimate that there are multiple billions of ISK worth of them abandoned in highsec alone, at any given time. The amount of money you can make from scanning these things down and scooping them completely eclipses the amount of money you can make through mission running and mining as a new player, the only trade-off is that you have to spend skill points on scanning skills rather than pumping them all into the usual combat/mining skills.

Fellow MTU Hunter Alexis Thunderkunt, who until recently was new to the world of MTU Hunting, and highsec scavenging in general, informed me of just how profitable it was compared to the more established professions in EVE.

Corp Chat

Shortly after this conversation, Alexis got very lucky indeed, finding an abandoned Gecko which netted him just over 100m ISK.

Speaking of big finds, one of the most expensive drone finds I’ve had over the last couple of years would be when I found 5x ‘Augmented’ Ogre in Kor-Azor Prime. At the time, those Ogres were worth 30m each, netting me a whopping 150m ISK jackpot; today those drones sell for around 80m ISK each at market hubs, so if you see those on D-Scan it’s worth checking them out, as that could be 400m just sat there waiting to be scooped by you.

Protip: Sometimes, when you warp-in on a mission runner, you can spook them and cause them to warp off quickly without recalling their drones. Therefore it’s always a good idea to warp to that Gecko, even when a Rattlesnake is sat on top of it.

Another notable find is the time I found 2x Gecko just sat 100km off the undock of an Astrahaus in Sacalan, and to this day I have no idea why someone would leave them there.

Gecko on Dscan

Recently, I had a very good night, netting myself 240m ISK after finding a single Gecko in Olo (which is right next to a level 4 SoE hub, so you tend to find nice things around there, just FYI) and an ‘Augmented’ Ice Harvesting Drone shortly afterwards in the more remote system of Aderkan.

I find that the best time to go hunting for abandoned drones is when CCP is running an event that features sites, such as the recent Guristas event. Myself, and many other fellow hunters noticed a disturbing amount of Vespas abandoned at these sites during the last event, both T2 and faction variants. They were always abandoned in twos, and almost certainly left behind by players flying Gilas. Due to the sheer volume of them, we suspect that mass-botting using a flawed macro which forgets to scoop the drones after using them could be to blame for this.


Abandoned POS Modules

These are actually something I don’t find very often, and soon enough will never find again, as the old POS system is being phased-out to be replaced by the new Upwell Structures.

Whilst travelling through the system of Zehru recently, I was keeping an eye out for POS structures to bash (an activity I do with my corp) when I spotted a Ship Maintenance Array and a Corporate Hangar Array on D-Scan. Unusally, there was no Control Tower to accompany them, so I probed them down and took a look.

POS Mods on Dscan

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Finding these structures unanchored, and knowing that unanchored POS structures don’t contain any loot (all loot inside is destroyed upon unanchoring) I decided that I would remove them from space another way. These things have a lot of mass, too much to carry in my little Hecate, so I bought a Tayra a couple of systems away, and returned to scoop them. Understandably, these things aren’t worth a lot of ISK these days, so they now sit in my hangar as trophies. I do wonder if CCP will offer some kind of recompense when they finally remove these structures from the game. If I get anything for holding onto these POS mods, I’ll be sure to let you know.


Abandoned Ships

Yes, people leave ships lying around in space for anyone to just take, although it is quite rare to find abandoned ships that are actually worth anything.

One night, whilst hunting MTUs in a region of space that was being invaded by Sansha’s Nation, I spotted 2 Thrashers on D-Scan. Nothing unusual there, you might think, except that I was the only pilot in local, and these ships were nowhere near any POS structures, therefore not parked behind a big blue shield. I had spotted a rather large Incursion fleet a couple of systems back, so I assumed that these ships might have belonged to them. After looking-up the corp ticker displayed by the ships on my overview, [Y0-H0], it appears that these ships were owned by a corporation called Sub–Zero.

After probing them down (they were right next to each other on grid) I bookmarked their location and docked-up in the neighbouring system, Aghesi, as there were no stations in Fabin, the system where the Thrashers were located. After docking-up, I left my Hecate and headed back to Fabin in my pod to board one of the Thrashers and take it back to station, then repeated the process for the second one. Expecting the ships to be empty, I was pleasantly surprised to find that these ships were fully T2 fitted, worth around 15m ISK each.

Found Thrasher

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I decided to hold onto those ships, and still have them to this day, the ganker in me appreciates having a couple of extra destroyers lying around, just in case. Aside from an empty, abandoned Occator that I found in my early MTU Hunting days, I haven’t had too much luck with finding abandoned ships. I did find a cheap Vigil recently, and I find shuttles quite often too, I’m always happy to remove them from space to clear-up D-Scan, no matter what they’re worth.


If you’re wondering, no, you don’t go suspect or criminal for scooping-up other pilot’s drones, ships, or POS modules, so doing these things is as risk-free as activities get in EVE Online. If you’ve ever needed an excuse to learn how to scan in EVE, think of all that free money just lying around highsec, and all of it can be yours.

Vocal Local 4

One thing I have noticed during my travels throughout highsec space is just how quiet it is, there could be over 100 people in local, and not a single word is uttered between those players. This makes me sad, so I like to encourage discourse where possible.

Sometimes, however, opening your mouth can be more trouble than it’s worth.

Local Chat

Local Chat

In the system of Inaro I had found an abandoned Gecko, a very expensive drone just lying out there in the cold dark of space. It wasn’t long before multiple people piped-up in local to claim ownership of the drone. This exchange in local was accompanied by 2 seperate private convos from each of the claimants.

Pix Severus > o/
Katakuna Katotekushi > hey
Katakuna Katotekushi > you won’t believe it, but it’s from my friend’s rattle
Katakuna Katotekushi > can i have it back and give it to him?
Katakuna Katotekushi > he forgot it after he ran away to the station
Pix Severus > nice try friend, but there is no way to know for certain it was your friend’s drone
Pix Severus > have a nice day!

ChikaPika > Please,return my gecko
ChikaPika > its my boyfriend account
ChikaPika > and i cant lose 1 of his gecko
Pix Severus > this is literally the 2nd private convo from someone lying, saying its theirs
Pix Severus > i applaud your efforts though, have a nice day!

I almost had cause to believe Katakuna when he said it was his friend’s drone, that was until ChikaPika convoed me saying it was actually her boyfriend’s drone, and then I quickly remembered what kind of game EVE Online is. Needless to say neither party had put a good enough case forward, and I confiscated the drone for my own personal use.

Shortly after leaving Inaro, I received the following notification, which I treated as the last desperate measure of a scammer who couldn’t get her own way.

Bounty

I had only been passing through Inaro while on my way to one of my favourite MTU hunting grounds, and as luck would have it, I found another abandoned Gecko later on that night in my destination system of Lanngisi. The following day I found yet another Gecko in the system of Amygnon. There were no further claimants.


Upon arriving in the system of Aufay one night, my D-scan lit-up with the familiar sight of a Mobile Tractor Unit. Whilst probing it down, it became apparent that this MTU wasn’t abandoned, but was accompanied by a Hulk. Unusally, both the MTU and the mining ship were nowhere near an asteroid belt, which is where you’d expect such a ship to operate, so out of interest I decided to take a look.

After warping to the MTU’s signature, I found myself some 30k away from the MTU and the miner, inside a Mining Mission. The miner quickly scooped the MTU and began negotiations.

Menodian > how much do u want
Pix Severus > its ok, i dont hurt miners
Pix Severus > i just hunt down abandoned mtus
Menodian > okay ty
Pix Severus > have a nice day sir

The miner had instantly assumed I was there to hunt him and wasted no time in offering me a ransom, which I declined. I was only there for the MTU, and since it had been scooped, there was nothing left of interest to me. In hindsight I could have perhaps taken this a little further and tried to convince him to let me have his MTU.

At this point, the miner warped away and docked at a nearby station, and shortly afterwards opened a private convo with me.

Menodian > if got a noob question
Pix Severus > ok
Menodian > how did you find me :O
Pix Severus > i fit a probe launcher to my ship, and used combat probes, mobile tractor units are very easy to scan down
Menodian > okay thanks m8
Menodian > i’m worried the wil gank me lol
Pix Severus > you fly a hulk yes?
Menodian > yes
Pix Severus > consider using a skiff instead, most gankers tend to avoid those because they have huge ehp
Menodian > okay ill buy one and sell my hulk
Pix Severus > hulks have better yield, but are very weak
Pix Severus > and make sure to put a tank on the skiff
Menodian > okay
Pix Severus > the reason most miners die though is because they mine afk, which gives gankers lots of time to kill, mining can be tricky these days
Menodian > yeah i no i lost a hulk already lol
Menodian > brb diner time thanks m8 for advice
Pix Severus > np, feel free to chat anytime o/

It would seem, then, that the miner had chosen to mine inside of Mining Missions for the purpose of avoiding gankers, not a bad idea, but as you can see it won’t stop people from probing you down regardless. In EVE Online, the best advice is always free, if you ever have any questions about the game, follow Menodian’s example above.

Unfortunately Menodian chose not to follow my advice, and instead began mining using Retrievers, weak and easily gankable mining vessels, of which he has lost a few already.

That just about wraps up this edition of Vocal Local, if you see me in space, give me a wave. o/

Vocal Local 3

Abandoned Drones

Early on in my MTU hunting career it became apparent that the majority of abandoned MTUs are either empty, or hold very little loot. I wanted to keep some steady ISK trickling-in to help pay for ammo and other expenses, so I wouldn’t completely burn through the liquid ISK I had set aside for this project. I decided, then, that it was a good idea to subsidise my MTU hunting with the additional activity of scanning down and scooping abandoned drones.

Drone

Beep boop.

Drones have many uses, from aiding you in combat, to increasing your mining yield, and beyond. One thing that all drones have in common though is that they are often left abandoned, intentionally or otherwise, by the person who deployed them. I like to think of them as lost children, orphans, who need someone to help them find a new home, that home being the Jita marketplace. Most often they are abandoned because someone was careless and forgot to retrieve their drones before warping off from a mission and completing it, but there are other possibilities too, such as the person dying in a mission. Abandoned drones along with an abandoned MTU, in a mission site that still has active rats in it, is a good indicator that the mission runner died in the mission and their wreck was sucked into their own MTU; I’ll go into more detail on this phenomenon in later posts.

Scanning down drones is a lot harder than scanning down MTUs, unless you’re trying to scan down a ‘Magpie’ MTU, those are notoriously difficult to scan. Because of how time-consuming it can be, it’s worthwhile setting yourself a limit on which drones you should scan down, and which you should ignore. I personally go for any T2 or faction drones I see on scan, I only go for T1 drones if they’re medium, heavy or sentry ones, and only if I’ve had bad luck finding anything else that day. I’ll only scoop T1 light drones if I had accidentally scanned them down instead of a different set of more expensive ones.

Note: You do not gain Suspect Status (yellow blinky/flashy) for scooping drones, so you can do this ad infinitum with very little risk.

Cleaning a system of all those extra scan signatures can be a very satisfying thing indeed, it can also be very profitable. One time, whilst exploring an empty system on the outer reaches of Amarr highsec, I found 5 ‘Augmented’ Vespa drones, which sell for around 12m ISK each (at the time of writing this). That’s 60m ISK earned in a couple of minutes, just from scanning down random stuff. I also found an abandoned Occator just 2 systems away, that day was a profitable one to say the least.

Incidentally, the best places to find abandoned drones tend to be the systems that have level 4 security agents, and the systems surrounding those.

Whenever I pop an MTU filled with loot, or scoop a large amount of drones, I dump it all in the nearest station and then I use a hauler to go around collecting all that loot later on. After spending some time (read: a few days) hauling over a month’s worth of stashed loot back to Jita, this is what my hangar looked like:

Drones

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That’s over 600m ISK from casually scooping drones in highsec, over a period of around a month and a half. Not a bad little side-income, and yes, people do leave Geckos out there too.